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Super Strike Super 'N Fish Needlefish - Any thoughts?
Sep 24 2012 3:41PM
|Visit the "Super Strike Fishing Lures" category of the website and you'll notice that the Super N Fish holds down the #1 spot in the rankings. That's pretty amazing considering #2 and #3 go to the Little Neck Popper and Zig Zag respectively. |
Why is this Needlefish lure SO popular?
If anyone has read DZ's new book, you probably already know one of the answers. This lure excels when very large striped bass are keyed-in on sandeels. Couple that with the fact that often bass fishing is best when the weather is worst. You need a lure that will punch into a gale? Again, the Super 'N Fish will excel. And if there's a heavy sweep? You need a lure that will hold? See the new 'heavy' models that are now available.
These lures come in a variety of size/color/weight combinations. What have you all found with regard to this most popular Super Strike lure?
When do you use it? How has it performed for you? Any interesting or memorable stories to relate?
Actually, there's one picture on the wall at the shop that comes to mind. I'll snap a shot tomorrow and post it here, but it's basically a picture of a customer around the CW who just caught a huge bass in broad daylight on (if I'm not mistaken) a black super 'n fish of all things . I'll do my best to get that picture posted here.
Sep 27 2012 9:08AM
|Like the Darter, the needlefish is a plug I don't use enough (damn bucktails work too well). I have had some scenarios in my limited time using them where they have shined, and I'm really trying to experiment more. One retrieve I've been using lately is hardly a retrieve at all. When there is enough side to side sweep, I cast the needle out, slightly up current and reel only enough to keep the line tight. I don't know if it is the sparsely tied bucktail that I use on my needles that turns it from number 2 pencil-like into realistic baitfish, but just letting the needlefish swing in the current has produced some fish for me when other things haven't.|
The 1 oz Super N Fish shines when fish are on small bait. For a small plug it casts extremely well on a surf rod. All black and all yellow are my top color choices.
One of the perks of the Super N Fish is that it is extremely versatile. You can fish it 20 different ways and they'll all catch at times - from the slow crawl, to working it on top like a pencil. Over the past few years I've realized that a 1 oz SS needle is probably one of those plugs you should choose if you could "only have 5 plugs, what would they be."
Sep 27 2012 11:00AM
|Heres my experiences with the SS needle. |
Why is this Needlefish lure SO popular?
color options, size options, consistent product. Looks like a lot of bait fish, needlefish, spearing, mackerel, etc, has that slender profile that most bait fish have. price is another factor. the fact you can cast it in any condition.
My first catching experience with a ss needle was very memorable, i had bought a 1.75oz green over white needle and replaced the hooks with 3/0 vmcs, i always carried it but never threw it as i had zero confidence in it, i mean it doesnt swim, has no action and i cant feel it in the water. and when i did fish it i never gave it a big chance.
was at pt jude throwing everything in the bag, with not much to show for it, as i was looking in the bag i saw the needle, figured why not what am i going to catch less fish, threw it out and a dead slow retrieve and about half way in it gets it so hard the rod almost got pulled out of my hand, fish was mid to hi teens and completely swallowed the plug, after that fish was released i kept throwing the needle, i caught something like 16 fish that night all that same size, most were hooked on the belly hook but the others completely inhaled it. I was hooked!! The hits were so vicious and the fish made no issues with light taps, they wanted that plug. Went home that night happy and satisfied that i threw the needle.
Since then ive almost always carried one in the bag, they take up no room and work in almost every condition.
I do the steady dead slow retrieve, i almost never add any action on it all, its boring but it works, and like the saying goes "if you think your going slow, go slower" usually i just slow crawl it but when i slow it down even more it seems to get hammered, i think the fish is watching it or trailing it and that second pause when you go from slow to slower they use that moment to hit the plug.
a few seasons back it was my top producer and go to lure. black over orange and green over white and always the 1.75oz. we havent had a great sand eel run in a few years, remember when fort adams had school bus size schools of them 30 yards from shore?
This year i had great success with throwing the heavy version in green over white at the canal, casts amazing, gets down in the water column if you want it to and resembles the long slender baits like the macs. the fish loved it, i rigged that one with 6x 4/0 hooks due to the nature of the canal. i used it like a twitch bait and with the sweeping current it really did the trick.
i rig most of my ones for the surf with 3/0 or 4/0 vmc on the belly and a heavy dressed siwash on the back, usually a 6/0 or 7/0, adds some drag which helps me keep in contact with it and adds to the overall profile of the plug.
I almost never throw the small ones, i own a few and some bullets but the 1.75 is my go to ss needle. but try the small ones with a small split ring to a small barrel swivel to a small split ring to a chark tail or willow blade on the back, action is crazy and if you fish it fast the blade will break the surface and cause some great hits.
Sep 29 2012 9:12AM
|WHen i started fishing block island 6 years ago my buddy said that was all i really needed. He was overstating the fact but he uses them a lot over there. My first trip over there i had zero confidence in them and stuck to metal lips and plastic swimmers, i did ok but he was puling fish from places that i got skunked. I borrowed one of his and took a few casts with it but had no confidence, a sunny day in june, he caught fish i practiced casting. |
That fall we went back and i was stuck on using eels as that was all i needed and the group was basically all throwing eels and we cleaned up nicely on good sized fish.
Fast forward to the next summer and i started using needles and had a couple fantastic nights on them not SS however. I went to the edge and bought 2 green over white in a couple sizes and a solid green. I replaced the hooks and was on my way over to the island. It started immediately with fish. For a week it was fish after fish, i dont think we ever went more than an hour without catching a fish. There was 5 of us over there for the week. I can not even estimate the amount of fish we caught. All of us threw the SS in some shade of green with a redgill up top. I would throw on a different make of needle and would still catch fish but instead of having a hit every few casts it was more spaced out. We never caught anything too large that trip but the amount of fish was just incredible. It went down as the best week of fishing in my life. We still go over for a week every fall for the same set of tides. It has not been the same since but the SS is always flying by one of our group at any given time. Its a great plug for scouting. There are a couple points that we hit daily by 1 or 2 in the group just to see if its producing. Im heading over in a few weeks and already have a bunch of fresh tails tied up and a box of VMC's in my needle box. I am going to pick up a couple the heavy needles as i havent tried them yet. Over there last fall i would have loved to have one on the last day, the conditions were perfect at a certain cove but i couldnt fish it properly with what i had in the bag, im pretty sure if i had a heavy i would have connected. Another thing i like about them is the funky woosh sound they make when you cast them.
Oct 4 2012 12:07AM
|Ahhhh.. first trip to Chappaquidick since 1974. ( !!?! ) First night on East Beach. First time using an SS needle. Smokey 2 3/8 oz. Cast out into the darkness, felt the swing, slight twitch........ 10th cast .... felt the weight on the end of the swing and there she was. My first 20 lb bass from the surf. Can't wait to try them down here in Jersey at the sand eel ball. All the ladies in stripes are invited to participate.|
Oct 27 2012 7:19AM
|Life has got in the way and I've been resigned to surf the net for my fishing jones. My first fish on a SS needle came from Block in the Fall in the mid 90's on a parrot needle. We were going over and fishing bait, mostly squid, some guys chunking pogies. The guys in the house plugging were throwing homemade needles with red gill teasers. So one afternoon I decided to snap on a SS I had purchased and headed to Dories. A few casts into the whitewater and BAM, a 15#; I was hooked on plugging from there. Back then SS's cost $8, so needless to say I went home and bought 5 of each color. Trans pink, trans green, parrot, and black. A few years later they came out with blurple, or as some called it at the time eggplant. Blurple was and is still the first out of the bag for me once darkness comes into play. One note, before I started getting serious about plugging, the only plug I used was a Little Neck and that was during the day. I think people dont give the needle enough credit as a fish catcher during the day, especially in rough water conditions. When the Mullet are around this plug is sweet.|
Oct 29 2012 8:26AM
Nice to hear from you - hope everything is ok. Haven't seen you for quite a while. Gotta luv the SS needle. You're correct - skip it in the daylight too!
Nov 4 2012 11:23AM
|they're great when sand eels are around or other slender baits.|